Comments on: More nofollow B.S. http://www.jlh-design.com/2007/08/more-nofollow-bs/ Terrible writing and mere conjecture Sat, 11 Oct 2008 19:58:32 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=abc By: jerbroo http://www.jlh-design.com/2007/08/more-nofollow-bs/#comment-5309 jerbroo Thu, 27 Sep 2007 05:43:36 +0000 http://www.jlh-design.com/2007/08/more-nofollow-bs/#comment-5309 Assuming that Google is being forthright about what they actually do with nofollow, as its use proliferates and we have nofollow confetti then it'll become as useful as meta description tag. Which means another update to disaffect nofollow. But, what if it's not actually a simple way to not pass on link juice or "credit" or whatever. What if it's another metric for Google to profile webmasters and sites. Perhaps it's used as a damping factor in an evolved PR algo. I question whether they'd offer up nofollow, given it's expressed and understood intend, and expect it to actually weed out spamy links. After all, who's going to use it? ..webmasters, SEO's, etc. oooo? ..Or maybe you're right, Matt et al just need to explain it better. -Jerbroo Assuming that Google is being forthright about what they actually do with nofollow, as its use proliferates and we have nofollow confetti then it’ll become as useful as meta description tag. Which means another update to disaffect nofollow. But, what if it’s not actually a simple way to not pass on link juice or “credit” or whatever. What if it’s another metric for Google to profile webmasters and sites. Perhaps it’s used as a damping factor in an evolved PR algo. I question whether they’d offer up nofollow, given it’s expressed and understood intend, and expect it to actually weed out spamy links. After all, who’s going to use it? ..webmasters, SEO’s, etc. oooo? ..Or maybe you’re right, Matt et al just need to explain it better.

-Jerbroo

]]> By: Sebastian http://www.jlh-design.com/2007/08/more-nofollow-bs/#comment-5196 Sebastian Wed, 15 Aug 2007 14:05:50 +0000 http://www.jlh-design.com/2007/08/more-nofollow-bs/#comment-5196 I totally understand how this happens John, but even telling the nofollow crap is thrown on all groups doesn't explain *) why they castrate the links to the pages in the introduction but not on the sidebar, and it doesn't explain why on other groups the pages aren't nofollowed although they're user supplied, where group owner equals user. Ok, the links on pages are condomized too but why point the crawler to condomized contents anyway? I know the rel-nofollow semantics don't say that each and every bit of user generated content is crap one must nofollow, Google stated often that selective and sensible use of nofollow is preferred, for example Adam asked the Wiki to make sane use of the link condom, but Google teams like blogger and groups throw it like confetti (this phrase is trademarked!). When Google is not able to implement rel-nofollow in a reasonable way, how can one blame Twitter Pownce and all the other nofollow victims when they switch of their brains while throwing nofollow confetti? I'd say Google's secret master plan contains a head note like "Google's mission is to comdomize the world's information and make it universally uncrawlable and useless" WRT safer indexing. Doh! Don't get me started again on nofollow rants ... *) Technically it's explainable I totally understand how this happens John, but even telling the nofollow crap is thrown on all groups doesn’t explain *) why they castrate the links to the pages in the introduction but not on the sidebar, and it doesn’t explain why on other groups the pages aren’t nofollowed although they’re user supplied, where group owner equals user. Ok, the links on pages are condomized too but why point the crawler to condomized contents anyway? I know the rel-nofollow semantics don’t say that each and every bit of user generated content is crap one must nofollow, Google stated often that selective and sensible use of nofollow is preferred, for example Adam asked the Wiki to make sane use of the link condom, but Google teams like blogger and groups throw it like confetti (this phrase is trademarked!). When Google is not able to implement rel-nofollow in a reasonable way, how can one blame Twitter Pownce and all the other nofollow victims when they switch of their brains while throwing nofollow confetti? I’d say Google’s secret master plan contains a head note like “Google’s mission is to comdomize the world’s information and make it universally uncrawlable and useless” WRT safer indexing. Doh! Don’t get me started again on nofollow rants …

*) Technically it’s explainable

]]> By: John Honeck "JLH" http://www.jlh-design.com/2007/08/more-nofollow-bs/#comment-5195 John Honeck "JLH" Tue, 14 Aug 2007 10:33:21 +0000 http://www.jlh-design.com/2007/08/more-nofollow-bs/#comment-5195 I guess if they are universally saying that they cannot trust the links provided by groups owners (even it is Google itself) , then perhaps the content as well as the links should be blocked from the crawlers. If the whole lot is not good enough to be vouched for it surely must not be good enough to index, but I bet its high enough quality to serve ads on. Then again wiki doesn't trust its own members to link out responsibly and Google loves that site, so just the same song, different verse. I guess if they are universally saying that they cannot trust the links provided by groups owners (even it is Google itself) , then perhaps the content as well as the links should be blocked from the crawlers. If the whole lot is not good enough to be vouched for it surely must not be good enough to index, but I bet its high enough quality to serve ads on.

Then again wiki doesn’t trust its own members to link out responsibly and Google loves that site, so just the same song, different verse.

]]> By: John Honeck "JLH" http://www.jlh-design.com/2007/08/more-nofollow-bs/#comment-5194 John Honeck "JLH" Tue, 14 Aug 2007 10:18:03 +0000 http://www.jlh-design.com/2007/08/more-nofollow-bs/#comment-5194 You can colorize your Google with the plugin. http://www.anwaelte-in-vulkane-werfen.de/376/wordpress-plugin-senselesssuperbunt-google-anmalen/ And maybe even translate the site for me! You can colorize your Google with the plugin.

http://www.anwaelte-in-vulkane-werfen.de/376/wordpress-plugin-senselesssuperbunt-google-anmalen/

And maybe even translate the site for me!

]]> By: JohnMu http://www.jlh-design.com/2007/08/more-nofollow-bs/#comment-5193 JohnMu Tue, 14 Aug 2007 10:07:33 +0000 http://www.jlh-design.com/2007/08/more-nofollow-bs/#comment-5193 I love your Google-colorizer, btw. :) I love your Google-colorizer, btw. :)

]]> By: JohnMu http://www.jlh-design.com/2007/08/more-nofollow-bs/#comment-5192 JohnMu Tue, 14 Aug 2007 10:06:51 +0000 http://www.jlh-design.com/2007/08/more-nofollow-bs/#comment-5192 I think a part of that comes from Google eating it's own dog-food, using the same tools that it provides for the average user (which seem to be more locked down with regards to linkage than probably necessary, extra on the safe side). I'm glad that they are "forced" to use their own tools -- that way they can evolve to get better and better for the average user as well. I think a part of that comes from Google eating it’s own dog-food, using the same tools that it provides for the average user (which seem to be more locked down with regards to linkage than probably necessary, extra on the safe side). I’m glad that they are “forced” to use their own tools — that way they can evolve to get better and better for the average user as well.

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