11th December 2007

Of paid links debate

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Earlier tonight I left a comment on Sphinn, “This is all becoming borderline Sisyphean,” regarding the debate that has permeated the SEO crowd.  I’ve looked for uproar beyond the professional search engine manipulation machine and just cannot find any.  Anyway I find the whole fiasco quite humorous to witness.  I have opinions on the matter, but none that are going to make a difference.

Avoiding the obvious wiki reference I found this definition to help clarify my position:

Of or relating to an endless and ineffective task.
This one comes straight out of Greek myth. Sisyphus was a king of Corinth, a son of Aeolus (the ruler of the winds, hence our word aeolian for something produced by or borne on the wind). In later legend he was the father of Odysseus or Ulysses. His name actually meant “crafty” in Greek: he was noted for his deception and he’s the equivalent in Greek folklore of the master trickster who turns up in many folk beliefs, such as Coyote in American Indian mythology. He even managed to cheat Death the first time around, surviving the experience to live to a ripe old age. In Greek legend Sisyphus was punished in Hades for his misdeeds in life by being condemned eternally to roll a heavy stone up a hill. As he neared the top, the stone rolled down again, so that his labor was everlasting and futile. The word first appeared in English in the middle of the seventeenth century. It isn’t used much these days because so few people understand the reference to classical literature.

The parallels that one can draw from that story are uncanny.  It also answers the question, beyond the obvious “not to help the spammers angle” why Google doesn’t notify everyone of their penalties, their cause, their existence, nor their cure.  The announcements of paid links have accomplished the same task, paralyzing the community in an endless and ineffective task of one-sided debate.

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There are currently 4 responses to “Of paid links debate”

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  1. 1 MyAvatars 0.2 On December 11th, 2007, gb said:

    While post hoc ergo propter logical fallacies abound, I can’t help but wonder when we are to abandon reasonable inference in favor of a generally accepted “wisdom (Google/Matt Cutts/etc. says so, so it must be).”

    Especially for a neophyte who’s doing a site with no expectation of remuneration and doesn’t have the experience (nor perhaps the time to develop it) re: SEO stuff, it’s certainly reasonable to acknowledge a possible cause-effect when the Only Page of a client’s site to be linked from another site drops entirely from Google’s index (along with that page’s pictures) shortly after a spammy kiddie-porn inferring site with a “download this now” JS loop links to it.

    I tend not to characterize the dynamic not as Sisyphean (as there’s a clear cause and effect - I push the stone, it goes up the hill), but more akin to response/outcome independence - what I do doesn’t matter, as it may or may not produce the desired effect (see Seligman, et. al.)

  2. 2 MyAvatars 0.2 On December 15th, 2007, geri said:

    As a company that provides a free or paid service they have the right to do whatever the want. Since the nature of their product is not to explain in detail how it works it is ridicules to think that they would give an explanation for their action.
    Google has for years indicated the proper use of links, as in “nofollow.” They have only recently begun to enforce this, in reference to their results. They could care less about selling and buying if the “nofolow” is in place. There concern is about the quality of the product that they provide.
    We are very happy to see them act on this issue. Our position has always been that the buying and selling of links is corrupt. Those who have the money have a big advantage over those who do not have the money to purchase links.
    Those who are complaining the most have built their business model around selling links and the higher the PR the more that they can charge. The next largest group that is complaining is the SEO service providers who purchased links and called it good SEO. This group now has to actually produce. As we all know this takes time and effort.
    We have never purchased or sold links… So right now we are feeling very good about all of this.

  3. 3 MyAvatars 0.2 On December 28th, 2007, Forrest said:

    It’s sad that few enough people can use a word to almost remove it from the language. I caught the Sisyphus reference immediately … wasn’t the ‘earthly misdeed’ he was punished for helping Prometheus steal fire from the gods?

  4. 4 MyAvatars 0.2 On December 28th, 2007, gb said:

    Forrest -

    According to most popular accounts, Sisyphus was trying to escape death via deceitful means, getting himself back to the “real” world after having already been sent to the underworld. It was for his trickery he is punished. See e.g.,

    http://www.mythweb.com/encyc/entries/sisyphus.html
    http://www.nyu.edu/classes/keefer/hell/camus.html

    While one could certainly apply this bit to the discussion as well (citing “paid links” as ignoble and worthy of punishment), it would be oblique to Honeck’s reference merely to the Sisyphus’s futile task, not the reason for which he is condemned to the task.

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