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	<title>Comments on: Getting help in GWHG</title>
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	<description>Terrible writing and mere conjecture</description>
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		<title>By: John Honeck "JLH"</title>
		<link>http://www.jlh-design.com/2008/01/getting-help-in-gwhg/#comment-5480</link>
		<dc:creator>John Honeck "JLH"</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2008 08:53:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ahhh Haaa, whoops, surly == surely</description>
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		<title>By: Sasch Mayer</title>
		<link>http://www.jlh-design.com/2008/01/getting-help-in-gwhg/#comment-5479</link>
		<dc:creator>Sasch Mayer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2008 08:45:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You've hit the nail on the head about the big difference between GWHG and other SEO forums. 
Aside from a couple of users who keep insisting on talking about doing the numbers and using any means fair or foul to get to the top, it's a place where people can actually get 'holistic' advice about their problems from 'real' webmasters without any of the billshut.

It's one of the main reasons I hang around the place.

&#62; THANKS FOR THE BEER. It surly is appreciated.

So you appreciate it it a grudging, gruff, ill-mannered sort of way? ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;ve hit the nail on the head about the big difference between <acronym title="Google Webmasters Help Group">GWHG</acronym> and other <acronym title="Search Engine Optimizer">SEO</acronym> forums.<br />
Aside from a couple of users who keep insisting on talking about doing the numbers and using any means fair or foul to get to the top, it&#8217;s a place where people can actually get &#8216;holistic&#8217; advice about their problems from &#8216;real&#8217; webmasters without any of the billshut.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s one of the main reasons I hang around the place.</p>
<p>&gt; THANKS FOR THE BEER. It surly is appreciated.</p>
<p>So you appreciate it it a grudging, gruff, ill-mannered sort of way? <img src='http://www.jlh-design.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: John Honeck "JLH"</title>
		<link>http://www.jlh-design.com/2008/01/getting-help-in-gwhg/#comment-5478</link>
		<dc:creator>John Honeck "JLH"</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 22:21:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for commenting John, Sasch, and Abhilash.  To be sure, I receive no remuneration at all for my dribble in the help groups.  Just ask Adam Lasnik or Matt Cutts, we've been on opposite sides of public discussions before.  

Here's the big difference between GWHG and all the other SEO forums out there.  The goal at GWHG is to help people set their sites up for success in Google by doing what Google recommends and mostly wants from them.  On most SEO forums the goal is to simply do well in Google, by any means required.  You'll read more there about keyword density, varying your anchor text, etc, basically manipulative methods to help improve your rank.  At GWHG the place is focused on what you should do to make the site more google friendly, not what trick or shortcut should be used to push the envelope.

And Abhilash, THANKS FOR THE BEER. It surly is appreciated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for commenting John, Sasch, and Abhilash.  To be sure, I receive no remuneration at all for my dribble in the help groups.  Just ask Adam Lasnik or Matt Cutts, we&#8217;ve been on opposite sides of public discussions before.  </p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the big difference between <acronym title="Google Webmasters Help Group">GWHG</acronym> and all the other <acronym title="Search Engine Optimizer">SEO</acronym> forums out there.  The goal at <acronym title="Google Webmasters Help Group">GWHG</acronym> is to help people set their sites up for success in <strong style="color: rgb(0, 0, 255);">G</strong><strong style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">o</strong><strong style="color: rgb(255, 242, 174);">o</strong><strong style="color: rgb(0, 0, 255);">g</strong><strong style="color: rgb(0, 128, 0);">l</strong><strong style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">e</strong> by doing what <strong style="color: rgb(0, 0, 255);">G</strong><strong style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">o</strong><strong style="color: rgb(255, 242, 174);">o</strong><strong style="color: rgb(0, 0, 255);">g</strong><strong style="color: rgb(0, 128, 0);">l</strong><strong style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">e</strong> recommends and mostly wants from them.  On most <acronym title="Search Engine Optimizer">SEO</acronym> forums the goal is to simply do well in Google, by any means required.  You&#8217;ll read more there about keyword density, varying your anchor text, etc, basically manipulative methods to help improve your rank.  At <acronym title="Google Webmasters Help Group">GWHG</acronym> the place is focused on what you should do to make the site more google friendly, not what trick or shortcut should be used to push the envelope.</p>
<p>And Abhilash, THANKS FOR THE BEER. It surly is appreciated.</p>
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		<title>By: Abhilash</title>
		<link>http://www.jlh-design.com/2008/01/getting-help-in-gwhg/#comment-5476</link>
		<dc:creator>Abhilash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 20:44:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JLH, I've watched your participation in the GWHG &#38; on Matt's blog for a long time. I was looking at a thread on which you had commented (surprise there), checked out your profile and saw *prodigious* activity on your part. I don't know if it's altruism or if you're benefitting in some way, but I do want to compliment you on some outstanding help that you've provided to a ton of people.  Well done.

I'm even going to sponsor a beer for you. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><acronym title="John Honeck"><a title="JLH" href="http://johnhoneck.wordpress.com/">JLH</a></acronym>, I&#8217;ve watched your participation in the <acronym title="Google Webmasters Help Group">GWHG</acronym> &amp; on Matt&#8217;s blog for a long time. I was looking at a thread on which you had commented (surprise there), checked out your profile and saw *prodigious* activity on your part. I don&#8217;t know if it&#8217;s altruism or if you&#8217;re benefitting in some way, but I do want to compliment you on some outstanding help that you&#8217;ve provided to a ton of people.  Well done.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m even going to sponsor a beer for you. <img src='http://www.jlh-design.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Sasch Mayer</title>
		<link>http://www.jlh-design.com/2008/01/getting-help-in-gwhg/#comment-5470</link>
		<dc:creator>Sasch Mayer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 11:41:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice, candid post about the wonders of GWHG...

Now, if we can only get new users to read the FAQ, we've won! ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice, candid post about the wonders of <acronym title="Google Webmasters Help Group">GWHG</acronym>&#8230;</p>
<p>Now, if we can only get new users to read the <acronym title="Frequently Asked Questions">FAQ</acronym>, we&#8217;ve won! <img src='http://www.jlh-design.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: JohnMu</title>
		<link>http://www.jlh-design.com/2008/01/getting-help-in-gwhg/#comment-5468</link>
		<dc:creator>JohnMu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 07:54:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for putting this together and for your help in the groups!</description>
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