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	<description>Terrible writing and mere conjecture</description>
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		<title>By: ManfredEye</title>
		<link>http://www.jlh-design.com/2009/02/torontorealestatedirect/comment-page-1/#comment-6902</link>
		<dc:creator>ManfredEye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 22:43:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thats odd. Looks like you and I are both listed there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thats odd. Looks like you and I are both listed there.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael VanDeMar</title>
		<link>http://www.jlh-design.com/2009/02/torontorealestatedirect/comment-page-1/#comment-6813</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael VanDeMar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2009 18:50:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And a month later, her site is still ranking very, very well. Go figure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And a month later, her site is still ranking very, very well. Go figure.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Hearne</title>
		<link>http://www.jlh-design.com/2009/02/torontorealestatedirect/comment-page-1/#comment-6804</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Hearne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 20:38:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Check it out. She has a follow up script. Seems to take a few months to respond though. Check out the comment about her users emailing to say how good my site is. Sly cow:

Hello,

The page is a bit busy I just took a screen shot of it for you you can see it here : http://www.torontorealestatedirect.com/screenRnYrd.jpg

Thanks for letting me add your site to my directory. Your site will be a great addition to the website and of great value to my users. Today I actually received an email from one of my users about your site, it was very positive which reinforces my initial thoughts about adding you.

I was wondering if my site would be of value to your viewers and if so would you be able to add it to you site as well? If you have an available spot on your home page that would be really great but anywhere you think my site would fit in would be fine. I've put my site information below for you to look over.Let me know either way if you could.

    * Title: Toronto real estate
    * URL: http://www.torontorealestatedirect.com
    * Description: Find all the information you need about toronto real estate.

Have a good week,

Melissa Thompson
email: melissa.thompson@torontorealestatedirect.com
website: http://www.torontorealestatedirect.com

This email was sent to xxxxxxxxxxxx, by melissa.thompson@torontorealestatedirect.com

&#124; 234, 5149 Country Hills Blvd N.W Suite # 306 &#124; Toronto &#124; Ontario &#124; Canada


On Thu, 01 Jan 2009 07:08:12 +0000, "Red Cardinal Ltd." wrote:
&gt; Hi Melissa "By looking at my stats, it looks like today I have sent you visitors but it may change by the time you receive this email." This must be something new - have you found a way to travel back in time and remove those visitors? Something seems to be wrong with your script also - the nice URL you sent me doesn't have a link to my homepage? Let me know Rgds Richard</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Check it out. She has a follow up script. Seems to take a few months to respond though. Check out the comment about her users emailing to say how good my site is. Sly cow:</p>
<p>Hello,</p>
<p>The page is a bit busy I just took a screen shot of it for you you can see it here : <a href="http://www.torontorealestatedirect.com/screenRnYrd.jpg"  rel="nofollow">http://www.torontorealestatedirect.com/screenRnYrd.jpg</a></p>
<p>Thanks for letting me add your site to my directory. Your site will be a great addition to the website and of great value to my users. Today I actually received an email from one of my users about your site, it was very positive which reinforces my initial thoughts about adding you.</p>
<p>I was wondering if my site would be of value to your viewers and if so would you be able to add it to you site as well? If you have an available spot on your home page that would be really great but anywhere you think my site would fit in would be fine. I&#8217;ve put my site information below for you to look over.Let me know either way if you could.</p>
<p>    * Title: Toronto real estate<br />
    * URL: <a href="http://www.torontorealestatedirect.com"  rel="nofollow">http://www.torontorealestatedirect.com</a><br />
    * Description: Find all the information you need about toronto real estate.</p>
<p>Have a good week,</p>
<p>Melissa Thompson<br />
email: <a href="mailto:melissa.thompson@torontorealestatedirect.com">melissa.thompson@torontorealestatedirect.com</a><br />
website: <a href="http://www.torontorealestatedirect.com"  rel="nofollow">http://www.torontorealestatedirect.com</a></p>
<p>This email was sent to xxxxxxxxxxxx, by <a href="mailto:melissa.thompson@torontorealestatedirect.com">melissa.thompson@torontorealestatedirect.com</a></p>
<p>| 234, 5149 Country Hills Blvd N.W Suite # 306 | Toronto | Ontario | Canada</p>
<p>On Thu, 01 Jan 2009 07:08:12 +0000, &#8220;Red Cardinal Ltd.&#8221; wrote:<br />
&gt; Hi Melissa &#8220;By looking at my stats, it looks like today I have sent you visitors but it may change by the time you receive this email.&#8221; This must be something new - have you found a way to travel back in time and remove those visitors? Something seems to be wrong with your script also - the nice <acronym title="Uniform Resource Locator">URL</acronym> you sent me doesn&#8217;t have a link to my homepage? Let me know Rgds Richard</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Patterson</title>
		<link>http://www.jlh-design.com/2009/02/torontorealestatedirect/comment-page-1/#comment-6801</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Patterson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 05:04:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for this, I kept getting her emails on several of my websites, and I knew that something was not kosher as there would be no reason to link to my sites.  But the emails kept coming and when I went to the site, low and behold several of my sites were still there.  But I googled the website and saw on the cache that my links were not cached. Then i found your article. 

thanks, mystery solved.

Scott</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for this, I kept getting her emails on several of my websites, and I knew that something was not kosher as there would be no reason to link to my sites.  But the emails kept coming and when I went to the site, low and behold several of my sites were still there.  But I googled the website and saw on the cache that my links were not cached. Then i found your article. </p>
<p>thanks, mystery solved.</p>
<p>Scott</p>
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		<title>By: Brandon Hansen</title>
		<link>http://www.jlh-design.com/2009/02/torontorealestatedirect/comment-page-1/#comment-6761</link>
		<dc:creator>Brandon Hansen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 17:19:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is a completely messed up policy.  Fortunately it looks like not many people actually use the site, since there are not any comments posted on any of their blog posts.

What exactly made you look at the headers to figure out what was going on?  Seems like you must have seen this before or something.  Great catch though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is a completely messed up policy.  Fortunately it looks like not many people actually use the site, since there are not any comments posted on any of their blog posts.</p>
<p>What exactly made you look at the headers to figure out what was going on?  Seems like you must have seen this before or something.  Great catch though.</p>
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		<title>By: Karl Foxley</title>
		<link>http://www.jlh-design.com/2009/02/torontorealestatedirect/comment-page-1/#comment-6760</link>
		<dc:creator>Karl Foxley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 13:02:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This has left me wondering how many link requests are genuine... I've had a few people say, 'visit my site and you'll see I'm already linking to you'... good job I haven't linked to anyone in this way.

Thanks for posting. At least I now what I'm looking for now! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This has left me wondering how many link requests are genuine&#8230; I&#8217;ve had a few people say, &#8216;visit my site and you&#8217;ll see I&#8217;m already linking to you&#8217;&#8230; good job I haven&#8217;t linked to anyone in this way.</p>
<p>Thanks for posting. At least I now what I&#8217;m looking for now! <img src='http://www.jlh-design.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: John Honeck</title>
		<link>http://www.jlh-design.com/2009/02/torontorealestatedirect/comment-page-1/#comment-6743</link>
		<dc:creator>John Honeck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 21:30:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It's good to see Yahoo getting mention and stylizing...I completely forgot that I set that up.

http://www.jlh-design.com/2008/08/giving-yahoo-some-love/

To keep from Yahoo hooking you up with the site explorer so you can see those links without the automagic filter you can also add some [-nonsense_characters] to it...

http://search.yahoo.com/search;_ylt=A0oGkyOuzp1Jfw0BoNRXNyoA?p=-asdfasd292sdf+link%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.torontorealestatedirect.com%2F&amp;y=Search&amp;fr=sfp</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s good to see <strong style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">Yahoo!</strong> getting mention and stylizing&#8230;I completely forgot that I set that up.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.jlh-design.com/2008/08/giving-yahoo-some-love/"  rel="nofollow">http://www.jlh-design.com/2008/08/giving-yahoo-some-love/</a></p>
<p>To keep from <strong style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">Yahoo!</strong> hooking you up with the site explorer so you can see those links without the automagic filter you can also add some [-nonsense_characters] to it&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://search.yahoo.com/search;_ylt=A0oGkyOuzp1Jfw0BoNRXNyoA?p=-asdfasd292sdf+link%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.torontorealestatedirect.com%2F&#038;y=Search&#038;fr=sfp"  rel="nofollow">http://search.yahoo.com/search;_ylt=A0oGkyOuzp1Jfw0BoNRXNyoA?p=-asdfasd292sdf+link%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.torontorealestatedirect.com%2F&#038;y=Search&#038;fr=sfp</a></p>
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		<title>By: Richard Hearne</title>
		<link>http://www.jlh-design.com/2009/02/torontorealestatedirect/comment-page-1/#comment-6742</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Hearne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 21:21:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cheers - seeing it now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cheers - seeing it now.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael VanDeMar</title>
		<link>http://www.jlh-design.com/2009/02/torontorealestatedirect/comment-page-1/#comment-6741</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael VanDeMar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 21:13:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Richard - it's not a hack... I have my serps set to display 100 results at a time, and Yahoo simply groups results from the same domain together unless you click on the "repeat the search with the omitted results included" link at the end. If your display is set to 10 per page, then you would see it run out of results on page 28:

http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=linkdomain%3Awww.torontorealestatedirect.com+-site%3Awww.torontorealestatedirect.com&amp;n=10&amp;fr=siteexplorer&amp;xargs=0&amp;pstart=1&amp;b=271&amp;xa=wBgkmjo1zVVaH667naaS_w--,1235164325

Or try this link to see what I mean when you view them 100 per page:

http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=linkdomain%3Awww.torontorealestatedirect.com+-site%3Awww.torontorealestatedirect.com&amp;fr=siteexplorer&amp;xargs=0&amp;pstart=1&amp;b=201&amp;n=100</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Richard - it&#8217;s not a hack&#8230; I have my serps set to display 100 results at a time, and <strong style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">Yahoo!</strong> simply groups results from the same domain together unless you click on the &#8220;repeat the search with the omitted results included&#8221; link at the end. If your display is set to 10 per page, then you would see it run out of results on page 28:</p>
<p><a href="http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=linkdomain%3Awww.torontorealestatedirect.com+-site%3Awww.torontorealestatedirect.com&amp;n=10&amp;fr=siteexplorer&amp;xargs=0&amp;pstart=1&amp;b=271&amp;xa=wBgkmjo1zVVaH667naaS_w--,1235164325"  rel="nofollow">http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=linkdomain%3Awww.torontorealestatedirect.com+-site%3Awww.torontorealestatedirect.com&amp;n=10&amp;fr=siteexplorer&amp;xargs=0&amp;pstart=1&amp;b=271&amp;xa=wBgkmjo1zVVaH667naaS_w&#8211;,1235164325</a></p>
<p>Or try this link to see what I mean when you view them 100 per page:</p>
<p><a href="http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=linkdomain%3Awww.torontorealestatedirect.com+-site%3Awww.torontorealestatedirect.com&amp;fr=siteexplorer&amp;xargs=0&amp;pstart=1&amp;b=201&amp;n=100"  rel="nofollow">http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=linkdomain%3Awww.torontorealestatedirect.com+-site%3Awww.torontorealestatedirect.com&amp;fr=siteexplorer&amp;xargs=0&amp;pstart=1&amp;b=201&amp;n=100</a></p>
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		<title>By: Richard Hearne</title>
		<link>http://www.jlh-design.com/2009/02/torontorealestatedirect/comment-page-1/#comment-6740</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Hearne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 21:03:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At least you got your link.

Her script wasn't working the day I got it, and so I didn't even get my personal link.
I emailed her to tell her her script was busted, but she never responded LOL

@Michael - your yahoo query shows 201 - 210 of 23,100 for me. What's the tweak you're using to see 270 domains?

Rgds
Richard</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At least you got your link.</p>
<p>Her script wasn&#8217;t working the day I got it, and so I didn&#8217;t even get my personal link.<br />
I emailed her to tell her her script was busted, but she never responded <acronym title="Laughing out loud">LOL</acronym></p>
<p>@Michael - your yahoo query shows 201 - 210 of 23,100 for me. What&#8217;s the tweak you&#8217;re using to see 270 domains?</p>
<p>Rgds<br />
Richard</p>
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		<title>By: paul savage</title>
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		<dc:creator>paul savage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 14:15:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow , crazy stuff. My worst link request was when someone told me the had put a link to one of my domains, when in fact I already owned and was aware of the linking domain. They wanted to do a 3 way link exchange, with an existing link (that I had control over). 

Paul</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow , crazy stuff. My worst link request was when someone told me the had put a link to one of my domains, when in fact I already owned and was aware of the linking domain. They wanted to do a 3 way link exchange, with an existing link (that I had control over). </p>
<p>Paul</p>
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		<title>By: Michael VanDeMar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael VanDeMar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 13:30:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Site explorer is a little deceptive on the number of links, since it shows total links and doesn't consolidate the domains in the same way that regular search does. If you do the search on plain Yahoo with a tweak, you see that they actually have links from less than 270 different domains:

http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=linkdomain%3Awww.torontorealestatedirect.com+-site%3Awww.torontorealestatedirect.com&amp;fr=siteexplorer&amp;xargs=0&amp;pstart=1&amp;b=201&amp;xa=y8PsG5LzSzwu4_op6b2Nww--,1235049725

However, it does seem to be working for them:

http://www.google.com/search?num=10&amp;hl=en&amp;safe=off&amp;q=Toronto+Real+Estate&amp;btnG=Search

For now, anyways. I know of at least one Googler who read your post... they might not enjoy those rankings much longer.

-Michael</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Site explorer is a little deceptive on the number of links, since it shows total links and doesn&#8217;t consolidate the domains in the same way that regular search does. If you do the search on plain <strong style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">Yahoo!</strong> with a tweak, you see that they actually have links from less than 270 different domains:</p>
<p><a href="http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=linkdomain%3Awww.torontorealestatedirect.com+-site%3Awww.torontorealestatedirect.com&amp;fr=siteexplorer&amp;xargs=0&amp;pstart=1&amp;b=201&amp;xa=y8PsG5LzSzwu4_op6b2Nww--,1235049725"  rel="nofollow">http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=linkdomain%3Awww.torontorealestatedirect.com+-site%3Awww.torontorealestatedirect.com&amp;fr=siteexplorer&amp;xargs=0&amp;pstart=1&amp;b=201&amp;xa=y8PsG5LzSzwu4_op6b2Nww&#8211;,1235049725</a></p>
<p>However, it does seem to be working for them:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.google.com/search?num=10&amp;hl=en&amp;safe=off&amp;q=Toronto+Real+Estate&amp;btnG=Search"  rel="nofollow">http://www.google.com/search?num=10&amp;hl=en&amp;safe=off&amp;q=Toronto+Real+Estate&amp;btnG=Search</a></p>
<p>For now, anyways. I know of at least one Googler who read your post&#8230; they might not enjoy those rankings much longer.</p>
<p>-Michael</p>
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